I LOVE your description of this app! As an animal lover (not PETA-level, just get-my-pets-from-the-shelter) I was initially horrified by it, but you made your points so compellingly that I almost bought it just to support you and the causes to which you contribute. But I read the comments and decided against it because I'd want to actually play it - and except for diehard gangster and redneck types, players panned the game. Sorry!! But, again, your description was a work of art. : ) ----------------------------- Hello, My name is Evan Geiger and I've been following the story, or should I say hysteria revolving around your game and I just wanted to personally say I hope you find the fortitude to stand your ground, I understand that humaniacs such as folks affiliated with PETA and the HSUS can be relentless but by giving into their insane antics it only goes to further their agenda. The fact that they can sit there with a straight face and try to make you out to be some kind of monster when there are games out like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty is disgusting, they want to lump dog fighting in with pedophilia the fact that they can't draw the line or see the difference between a game that involves cyber dogs in imaginary fights only goes to show their problems not yours. Lastly I would like to state for the record I am by no means a dog fighter I am nothing more than a law abiding citizen who thinks some of these people have gone far over board and need to get a reality check and I thought you could use a word of encouragement among the many hysterical insults and personal attacks. Best regards, Evan ------------------------- As an animal lover i disagree with the content in this game but as a game fan I say keep the game up! Every time some one gets upset about a game it has gotten so easy to throw a big enough fit to have it changed or development stopped Every time a developer backs down games take a small step back. So while I disagree with the content don't let them bully you into taking it down. The people against it have been using threats of violence and to back down from that would be wrong. ------------------------ realize that you have power in this world---why use it this way?suzanne ------------------ When I was 10 every child in america played a game about captureing animals from the wild, putting them into a small dark container, never feeding them, and only letting them out to fight until they became unconcience it was called pokemon. ----------------------- Dear Kage games, I'm sorry for the brutality your corporation is going though. I've seen various news broadcasts and think its horrible that you have received threats of violence or worse because you've published this game. I admire the risk you have taken in making a dog fighting game and applaud your stance on keeping it on the market and continuing the development of the game. I have not played your game, nor do I plan on playing it. Honestly, I feel dog fighting to be despicable, an unforgivable crime. That being said, I believe in free speech and freedom of expression. Gaming is a fantasy, a break from reality, and should be treated as such no matter the content. Although I harshly disagree with Dog Wars, I agree with your freedom of expression. Sincerely, Robert ------------------------- As a game developer myself, I am disappointed that people do not readily distinguish between imagination and reality when playing games. Tremendous numbers of games offend "someone," whether it is shooting police officers, splattering human guts all over the screen, depicting illegal drug use, playing the role of a suicide bomber, or simply running over pedestrians with cars. Some countries even have laws banning certain manners of creative expression. Thankfully I do not live in such a country. I live in a better country, the USA, whose First Amendment protects the freedom of a game developer to creative expression. The First Amendment is not unlimited in freedom, but it certainly applies in this case. This freedom is routinely exercised in books, films, and TV shows, yet for some reason people think it's ok to pick on games. That an audience can be an active rather than a passive participant, and yet still act totally within the realm of imagination, is a powerful idea that society at large has still largely failed to grasp. I am confident that in a few more generations, video games will be so commonplace that cultural literacy in the distinction will be equally commonplace. At least, games will be no more abused than books or films on First Amendment grounds. That is not the present, and shame on Google if they yank the game just because some people find it offensive. The game developers themselves do not condone actual dog fighting, and unlike some, have the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality. Feel free to boycott whatever you want, but I can think of more creative ways to put pressure on Kage Games to do something responsible with their media attention. For instance, they could donate some proceeds to a dog charity, put a disclaimer on the title screen of the game, put some statements about how horrible animal cruelty is in the game... or for all I know maybe they've done some of that with their authorial voice already. I haven't played the game. Even if they want to do something totally "disgusting and irresponsible" I will defend their right to do it. I do not believe in the Thought Police, and I don't want them coming for my own thought. Who knows what other thought and creative expression will be outlawed or banned if the political climate allows people to think it's ok to do so? Will it be your religion? Your political candidates? Your beliefs about warfare or pacifism? Your attitudes about child rearing? Who will draw these lines , and why should people be allowed to draw these lines for you? FROM: THE KAGE GAMES TEAM::: THANKS, that is art right there ------------------- Thank you for your reply. First, I would never advocate violence against you or your employees and those animal advocates that do are not representing the majority of us. I am happy to know that you are developing this app with the goal of educating the public on the horrors of dog fighting. Yes, censorship is indeed a slippery slope. No one has censored you. What you have is an outcry from animal lovers who can't comprehend any game that is based on dog fighting can be anything other than a bad idea. Is the intent to educate? Really? I have attached a picture of a real victim of dog fighting who really wanted nothing to do with it as most don't. At one time he must have been a good looking dog. The second picture is of a dog that I rescued. She had been used as a bait dog when she was a puppy. She was saved from that life in time and I suppose Smiley could be considered safe now but what has he suffered? I implore you to really think this through. Even if this is going to raise money to help real dogs please consider how kids learn. IF they become de-sensitized to dog fighting through your app then you have potentially created a whole new generation of real dog fighters. Thank you for your consideration. Linda "The greatness of a nation and it"s moral progress can be judged by the way it's animals are treated."
Wait, you guys are donating money to a charity? That was not something covered in the original article that I saw. I'll admit, I didn't do much research. Clearly I support you guys and don't cast stones without warrant. If there's a bigger story to cover here, I'm all ears. Personally I'm a big fan of the Android Market's openness, spam and malware included. > The Pitboss wrote: > Ben, > > The best response to the XXXXXXXXXX article was this: > > "Very irresponsible post for a news site to promote censorship. Good job." > > Why don't people get it? This is not at all about dogfighting. We do not > condone it and have rescued dogs ourselves. This is a satire (southpark > style) and we actually have a cause. > > Please email back if you are interested in our higher point, we clearly > are a well funded, educated and talented team... raising money for dogs > with electrons is not a bad cause, right? > > The Pitboss > > > >> I have yet to play the Dog Wars game (downloading now), but I saw the >> article on Android Central and had to say something. Fuck the haters, >> the more haters you have the more successful you are. Keep up what >> you're doing and don't let a bunch of nuts stand in your way. >> >> On another note, I write for www.theandroidsite.com and I may have to >> throw up a post of my own. If you guys have any official statement or >> anything, I'd love to add it to a post. >> >> Thanks, >> Ben >> > >